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Offline eggFL

Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2007, 09:27:29 am »
Well I hope I don't have to read more to be able to see that.

Sonic (or anything) doesn't have to be original to be cool.

And whether or not Sonic is original has nothing to do with how expressive it is.

Let me put it this way... comparing a book to a movie. Now the movie can be a mainstream action flick that's really cliched and tired, and the book could be really clever and original, but the movie is regardless more expressive than the book, because it's a movie, and it comes alive with live actors, dialogue, etc.

And that's much like comparing Mario to Sonic, or Mario to any of the big 'mature' vg game franchises, with Mario being the book.

But I guess 'creative' doesn't apply to what I'm saying since the book is most definitely not less creative just because it's a book.

Not to say Sonic isn't creative, either. Though you wouldn't find that out from the plot, I guess. But you see, there's other things besides plot.

And Sonic characters are consistently great because of how well they're executed. With what you're saying you'd think that the new ones are wearing shades and baseball caps and carrying skateboards with them, and saying contemporary slang terms. (instead of "radical")  But... they're not. They're just Sonic characters, and they're amazing. They've fabricated a franchise in which anime angst anti-hero, big-busted Fujiko clone, mystical ninja, NY detective, 12 year old cooties, a typical loli, a prepubescent Green lantern, a tech-savvy sidekick, and a go-getter "I can do anything" main character all share the same world, one in which it all works, and it's great. They filled their roles and their archetypes, they earned their fans, and not only are they consistent with the franchise but they've come to define it.

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2007, 02:17:42 pm »
My beef was with the "creative" side of things.   Also the statement that each character embodies a stereotype reinforces my statement about marketing execs doing the writing: need another generalised segment of the populous to love your product  Throw in their mascot, it's all good.

We also seem to disagree on the word "expressive" - I think of ideas being communicated with that word, and just because an actor is saying words rather than me having reading them doesn't lessen that communication.  In fact, with literature people automatically use their own thoughts and imagination to interpret it; when this is spoon-fed to you by visuals and sound, I would argue there is less connection and hence the communicative power is lessened.

Whatever, I'm not saying it's wrong that Sonic game plots are the way they are, just that it doesn't make them better than Mario games.
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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2007, 10:00:42 pm »
60. Sonic can fly without wings (Riders) while Mario needs to go to space (Galaxy)
61. Adventure 2 owns Sunshine.
62. Sonic is better than Mario in the Olympic Games.
63. Sonic's TV shows own Mario's
64. Tails owns Luigi (The boy Tails, not the girl Tails.)
65. Mario says "Yahoo!", Sonic says "Ya!" and "That was cool!"
66. Sega gives their voice actor's disguises. (Adam Caroleson = Jason Griffith)
67. Mario likes to stuff himself down pipes, Sonic just rolls right through them.
68. Sonic owns Mario in Brawl.
69. Sega has a cooler logo.
70. Sonic Center owns the Mario competition site that doesn't exist.
71. Sonic survives fires on his chest, while Mario would burn to a crisp.
72. Sonic > Mario
73. Sonic >>>>>>>>> Mario

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2007, 10:20:48 pm »
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60. Sonic can fly without wings (Riders) while Mario needs to go to space (Galaxy)

more like, Mario can fly without a board >_>

but here's my take on it

74. Mario dedicates an entire game awaited half a decade just to go to space, but Sonic goes to space every time like it's no big deal.

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63. Sonic's TV shows own Mario's

no they don't :[

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65. Mario says "Yahoo!", Sonic says "Ya!" and "That was cool!"

Mario says "mamma mia!" Sonic says "Piece of cake, no sweat!!~"

it's close but Sonic wins by a small margin

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69. Sega has a cooler logo.

Not that relevant...

but you're right >_>

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70. Sonic Center owns the Mario competition site that doesn't exist.

Damn right.

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2007, 05:09:11 am »
Someone bumped the topic where I posted for first time on this forum... :_ )
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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2008, 07:25:46 pm »
.75HE does not have an annoying voice

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2008, 07:30:16 pm »
Unless you were being ironic or trolling that was the worst thing to bump with ever.

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2008, 07:32:24 pm »
76. The Sonic Characters pwns the Mario Characters...
77. He can save the world
78. He fight to the death
79. His games and stages pwns
Good bye for now Sonic =(

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2008, 07:34:51 pm »
80. Sonic has far more idiotic fanboys than Mario

Oh wait that's not a good thing
The moon is so red. Looks like it's going to be a fun night.

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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
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Re: 500 things that make sonic better than mario
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2008, 07:49:51 pm »
SkyL wins the thread
The moon is so red. Looks like it's going to be a fun night.

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